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Tī chia chò it-poaⁿ-sèng ê thó-lūn. Chhiáⁿ ē-kì-tit chhiam-miâ.

Koan-hē pán-bīn ê Hō-ló-oē hoan-e̍k būn-tê, kiàn-gī, téng-téng, chhiáⁿ chīn-liōng lī-iōng kok-pia̍t bûn-kù ê thó-lūn-ia̍h (Talk). Tōa-pō͘-hūn ê pán-bīn sìn-sit tī Special:Allmessages.

Khui sin gī-tê

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Happy Public Domain Day 2016![kái goân-sú-bé]

Logo Public Domain Day

Feel free to translate this message in your language!

On January 1 we celebrate Public Domain Day as many works of authors who died 70+ years ago now enter the public domain and can be used freely.

Let us be aware: copyright is temporary. It only lasts during the authors lifetime and 70 years afterwards (in most countries). During those years it is limiting Wikipedia and her sister projects in showing works of art, literature, public art and buildings in countries without freedom of panorama, and more in the articles. But now a new batch is freed from copyrights!

An overview of images and texts that are restored or added to the Wikimedia Commons, are collected on: this page.

Many of these files still need a place in articles. You can help!

You can also help by uploading new files of subjects that are freed of copyrights.
You can also help by tagging all requests for deletion pages with the category when the file can be restored, which will be/was deleted.

As I follow the log of restored files this week, more images and texts will follow. If still files or texts are missing in the list, let me know or add them yourselves.

A very happy Public Domain Day! Romaine (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 2-ji̍t (Pài 6) 13:21 (UTC)

  • Some of the freed files:

Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon![kái goân-sú-bé]

Please help translate to your language

A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:

Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 5-ji̍t (Pài 2) 01:49 (UTC)

The visual editor is coming to this wiki[kái goân-sú-bé]

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Hello again. Please excuse the English. Please help translate to your language. 感謝您!

The visual editor is coming to all editors at this Wikipedia on Monday, 25 January. It allows people to edit Wikipedia articles as if they were using word processing software.

You don't have to wait until the deployment to test it; you can test the visual editor right now. To turn it on, select "Beta" in your preferences. Choose "VisualEditor" and click save. When it is enabled, you will press the "Siu-kái" button to edit an article in the new software. To use the wikitext editor, you can press "kái goân-sú-bé".

After the deployment, everyone will automatically have the option to use either the visual editor or the current wikitext editor. For more information about how to use the visual editor, see mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide.

More information about preparing for the visual editor is posted here.

  • It's easier to add templates if you've added TemplateData information.
  • Please help translate the user interface and pages about the visual editor. See the visual editor's TranslationCentral for general information. To translate the user guide, go to the page, and select "翻譯此頁面". Your language should be available from the drop-down menu on the right. Once you've done this, you'll see the document in English side by side with any translation work already done in your language. You can add new translations or change old translations. To translate the user interface, you need to create an account at Contact me personally if you need help with that.
  • Please let us know if you find any problems. You can report issues in Phabricator, the new bug tracking system or on the central feedback page on If you notice major issues affecting your project, please leave a note on my talk page. In case of emergency (like an unexpected bug causing widespread problems), please contact James Forrester, the product manager, at or on IRC in the #mediawiki-visualeditor channel.
Wrong target page? Fix it hereSign up for the visual editor's multilingual newsletter

Thank you, and happy editing! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 15-ji̍t (Pài 5) 18:20 (UTC)

2016 WMF Strategy consultation[kái goân-sú-bé]

Please help translate to your language

Hello, all.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)

Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.

Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)

If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to

I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (對話) 2016-nî 1-goe̍h 18-ji̍t (Pài 1) 19:06 (UTC)

The visual editor is now active here[kái goân-sú-bé]

Hello again (and again, apologies for using English on this page. Please help translate to your language. 感謝您!)

As some of you have noticed, this Wikipedia now has the visual editor (VisualEditor) enabled for all users. (We planned to do this on 25 January 2016. However, last week, there was an unusual problem with an upgrade to MediaWiki. Thanks for your understanding.) There are now two tabs for editing: "Siu-kái" and "kái goân-sú-bé". Click "Siu-kái" to use the visual editor. Click "kái goân-sú-bé" to edit using wikitext markup.

All edits using the visual editor will be tagged with "VisualEditor" in recent changes, watchlists, and page histories. To access the User Guide for the visual editor, click on the "(?)" icon in its toolbar. If you wish to disable this new system, this can be done under "Editing" in your preferences.

Please let us know if you find any problems. You can report issues in Phabricator, the new bug tracking system or on the central feedback page on

If you can translate from English into this wiki's language, or know anyone who can, please follow this link and help your community get the best possible experience when it comes to interface messages and documentation related to the visual editor. The interface is hosted at; you'll need an account if you never translated there before. Please contact me directly whenever you need help!

Happy editing, Elitre (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 1-ji̍t (Pài 1) 17:53 (UTC)

Chin hó ê soàⁿ-téng hoan-e̍k chu-goân[kái goân-sú-bé]

Chit kúi kang, góa tī PTT bīn-téng khoáⁿ-tio̍h ū lâng hun-hiáng án-ne chi̍t ê Tâi-Hôa hoan-e̍k ê bāng-chām, hō-chò 臺華平行新聞語料庫. Lán Holopedia khó-lêng ē-sái lī-iōng chit-ê kang-khū lâi tōa-liōng cheng-ka lán-ê bûn-chiong sò͘-liōng kap lōe-iông tn̂g-tō͘.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 23-ji̍t (Pài 2) 11:34 (UTC)

Chán! --Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 4) 14:34 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016[kái goân-sú-bé]

Elitre (WMF), 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 5) 19:21 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016: call for posters, discussions and trainings[kái goân-sú-bé]

Hi people,
the calls for posters, discussions and trainings for Wikimania 2016 are officially opened, you can find all the relevant links on the conference wiki:

The calls will be closed on March 20.

Posters will be reviewed just to make sure that there aren't things which are too much out of scope. Since we have a whole village we will surely find places to attach them, even if we they will be a lot!

Discussions will be managed by a guiding committee who will work on the wiki to meld all the proposals and suggestions.

Trainings will be reviewed by the programme committee. Please note that we request that each training has at least 3-5 interested attendees in order to be put in the programme.

By the beginning of April we will have a first list of all the accepted proposals.

If you have questions we suggest you to ask them on the discussion pages on wiki, so that everyone will be able to see them (and their answers, of course).

We are looking forward to read your ideas! --Yiyi (對話) 2016-nî 2-goe̍h 29-ji̍t (Pài 1) 16:15 (UTC)

Goân-té tiōr sī hàn-jī ê goā-kok mi̍h-kiāⁿ sī-án-chuáⁿ iû-goân ài-ēng goā-bûn khí-miâ?[kái goân-sú-bé]

  • Europa kah Bí-chiu pún-lâi tiōr bôr hàn-jī, só͘-í ēng goā-bûn khí-miâ, che góa ē-tàng liáu-kái. M̄-korh chhin-chhioⁿ Ji̍t-pún kah Hân-kok pō͘-hūn ê mi̍h-kiāⁿ, i pêⁿ-pêⁿ tiōr sī siá hàn-jī. Hàn-jī ê siat-kè tiōr sī ē-tàng hō͘ bôr-kāng tē-hng ê lâng siá sior-kâng ê jī, tān-sī liām ka-tī ê im. Uī-siáⁿ-mih korh ài ēng pheng-im siá goā-bûn? Nā-sī án-ne, chhin-chhioⁿ Pak-kiaⁿ-ōe, tuì Hōr-lór-oē lâi kóng mā sī goā-bûn, Si̍p Kīn-pêng eng-kai soá si̍p uî Xí Jìn-píng.--Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 5) 20:30 (UTC)
    • Kî-thaⁿ gú-giân pán-pún ê khí-miâ hng-hoat:
vi wiki ko wiki ja wiki
Tiong-kok ê miâ Hàn-jī goân-bûn: Tập Cận Bình Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 이백
Tiong-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 시진핑
Hàn-jī goân-bûn: 習近平
Ji̍t-pún ê miâ Ji̍t-gú im-i̍k: Tokugawa Ieyasu Ji̍t-gú im-i̍k: 도쿠가와 이에야스 Ji̍t-gú goân-bûn: 徳川家康
Hân-kok ê miâ Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): Khương Hoằng Lập
Hân-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): Song Hye-kyo
Hàn-jī goân-bûn: 송혜교 Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 姜弘立
goân-bûn ia̍h sī Hân-kok-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 朴槿恵, ソン・ヘギョ
Oa̍t-lâm ê miâ Hàn-jī goân-bûn: Hồ Chí Minh Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 리 태조
Oa̍t-lâm-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): 호찌민
Hàn-jī goân-bûn (kó͘-chá): 李公蘊
Oa̍t-lâm-gú im-i̍k (hiān-tāi): ホー・チ・ミン

Bân-lâm-gú kap Oa̍t-lâm-gú lóng sī īng Lô-má-jī siá ê, kiàn-gī chham-khó Oa̍t-lâm-gú pán-pún ê siá-hoat.-- 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 06:08 (UTC)

Nā kian-chhî khì chhōe chia lâng-miâ tī Hô-ló-ōe Hàn-jī ê tha̍k-hoat, ē chō-sêng ēng Lô-má-jī ê lâng ài seng o̍h kòe Hàn-jī chia̍h ē-tàng siá Lô-má-jī. Che chō-sêng Lô-má-jī kaⁿ-taⁿ piàn 1 khoán tùi Hàn-jī ê "chù-im."
2 khoán hoan-siá kòe-têng ê chha-pia̍t:
  • 1. Ji̍t-gí Lô-má-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Lô-má-jī;
  • 2. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Hàn-jī -> Hô-ló-ōe Lô-má-jī.
Tē-2-khoán, nā chhiūⁿ 德川家康 chit chióng khah chhut-miâ ê lâng bô siáⁿ-mi̍h būn-tê, m̄ ko̍h nā beh siá chiông-lâi m̄-bat ēng Hô-ló-ōe tha̍k--kòe ê kî-tha Ji̍t-pún lâng-miâ, piáu-sī lán siōng-bô ài o̍h 2 khoán hē-thóng chia̍h ū hoat-tō siá mi̍h-kiāⁿ. --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 07:52 (UTC)

Lôr-má-jī mā sī ài ōaⁿ nn̄g pái:

  • 1. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Ji̍t-gí Lôr-má-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Lôr-má-jī;
  • 2. Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Hàn-jī -> Hôr-lór-ōe Lôr-má-jī.

Lán pêⁿ-pêⁿ lóng ài o̍rh hàn-jī ê hoat-im. --Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 17:16 (UTC)

Ji̍t-gí lâng-miâ ê Lô-má-jī ē-tàng ti̍t-chiap chhâ--tio̍h. Tû-hui sī chin chió lâng hō ê jī, "Ji̍t-gí Hàn-jī -> Ji̍t-gí Lô-má-jī" ê khang-khòe m̄-sī góa teh chò. Jî-chhiá nā ē-hiáu chit pō͘, sī piáu-sī ke-kiám bat Ji̍t-gí, m̄-sī óa-khò ē-hiáu 2 khoán Hô-ló-ōe su-siá hē-thóng. --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 26-ji̍t (Pài 6) 19:51 (UTC)

"ē chō-sêng ēng Lô-má-jī ê lâng ài seng o̍h kòe Hàn-jī chia̍h ē-tàng siá Lô-má-jī.": M̄-koán sī tór chi̍t kok ê lâng-miâ, lán lóng ài o̍rh hàn-jī ê hoat-im, nā-bôr lán ná ē chai "習近平" ài khí-miâ chorh "Si̍p Kīn-pêng"???? Lán ná ē chai "周子瑜" ài siá ûi "Chiu Chú-jû"?? in m̄-bat tī tiān-sī kóng--kòe in ê bân-lâm-gí miâ. Bêng-bêng tio̍rh chai-iáⁿ hàn-jī án-chuáⁿ kóng, che kan-na chhioⁿ-leh siàn ka-tī chhuì-phoé. --Liaon98 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 27-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 13:41 (UTC)

Ōe m̄-bián kóng kah hiah pháiⁿ thiaⁿ lah. Pún-lâng chàn-tông m̄-nā Hō-ló-lâng ê miâ-jī, Hân-kok-lâng, Tiong-kok-lâng kap Oa̍t-lâm-lâng ê lâng-miâ lóng ē-ēng iōng Hàn-jī ê Hō-ló-ōe hoat-im lâi siá; tān-sī Ji̍t-pún-lâng ê lâng-miâ ū i ka-kī ê te̍k-sû-sèng chûn-chāi. In-ê miâ ū-ê sī iōng hùn-tho̍k (訓讀) teh tha̍k, kin-pún tiō hām hit-ê Hàn-jī pún-sin ê im-tho̍k (音讀) bô koan-liân. Kî-si̍t chit-khoán būn-tê ê kái-koat hong-sek ē-sái chham-khó lâng Oa̍t-lâm-ōe Wikipedia sī án-choáⁿ siá.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 27-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 14:00 (UTC)
Che khó-lêng m̄ ka-na khoàⁿ gōa-gí/hui-gōa-gí ê chha-pia̍t; koh siū kî-tha in-sò͘ ê éng-hióng, phì-jû tōa-liōng hoan-e̍k sî ê hong-piān-sèng, kui-chek tú tio̍h lē-gōa ê khó-lêng-sèng, sīm-chì sī bô siáⁿ-mi̍h chheng-chhó lí-iû ê koàn-sì téng-téng. Siá Hàn-jîn ê miâ khó-lêng sī ài bián-kióng chhōe lán Hō-ló-ōe Hàn-jî ê tha̍k-im, lán khó-lêng bô su-iàu kā "習近平" siá chò "Xi Jingping", in-ūi Hôa-gí (he̍k-chiá "習近平" pún-hióng ê bó͘ khoán ōe) lâng-miâ kap Hô-ló-ōe bô sáⁿ chha-piat (nā Ji̍t-pún kap Hân-kok lóng ū lâng-miâ bô Hàn-jī he̍k-chiá ēng in ka-tī hoat-bêng ê Hàn-jī ê khó-lêng); m̄-koh nā chiam-tùi Ji̍t-pún lâng-miâ bô su-iàu koh kiâⁿ hn̄g lō͘ khì chò chi̍t khoán kang-hu. Che chio̍h chhin-chhiūⁿ Hân-kok ê lâng siá ka-tī ê lâng-miâ khó-lêng mā ài bat in ka-tī Hàn-jī tha̍k-im, m̄-koh tùi Ji̍t-pún-lâng "徳川家康", chio̍h ē-sài ti̍t-chia̍p ēng Ji̍t-gí ho͘-im tha̍k "ko:도쿠가와 이에야스"; in sīm-chì mā kā "習近平" ēng Hôa-gí im siá chò "시진핑" (sijinping). Lēng-gōa, hiān-sî Ji̍t-pún mûi-thé teh kiò Tiong-kok/Hân-kok lâng-miâ ê sî (iû-kî koa-chhiú ián-goân chit khoán) mā tiāⁿ ti̍t-chiap pheng Hôa-gí/Hân-gí ê ho͘-im chhut--lâi --Luuva (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 28-ji̍t (Pài 1) 06:34 (UTC)

Góa chàn-sêng kā Si̍p Kīn-pêng sóa khì Xí Jìnpíng téng-téng. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 28-ji̍t (Pài 1) 16:05 (UTC)

Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants[kái goân-sú-bé]

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Please help translate to your language:

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 2016-nî 3-goe̍h 31-ji̍t (Pài 4) 15:47 (UTC)

Server switch 2016[kái goân-sú-bé]

The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).

If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.

Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.

  • There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.

No non-essential code deployments will take place.

This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 2016-nî 4-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Lé-pài) 21:08 (UTC)

Wikipedia to the Moon[kái goân-sú-bé]

Hello! Sorry that this is in English only, but we are using village pump messaging in order to reach as many language communities as possible. Wrong page? Please fix it here.

This is an invitation to all Wikipedians: Wikimedia Deutschland has been given data space to include Wikipedia content in an upcoming mission to the Moon. (No joke!) We have launched a community discussion about how to do that, because we feel that this is for the global community of editors. Please, join the discussion on Meta-Wiki (and translate this invitation to your language community)! Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 2016-nî 4-goe̍h 21-ji̍t (Pài 4) 15:35 (UTC)

Khe (溪), Kang (江) kap Hô (河) ê iōng-hoat?[kái goân-sú-bé]

Tī lán Hok-kiàn-ōe lāi, sī khe-chúi ê iōng-hoat khah phó͘-phiàn, ia̍h-sī hô-chhoan? Goá ná ē kám-kak hô-chhoan ê iōng-hoat khah chhiūⁿ tùi Tiong-kok-ōe ti̍t-chiap siá kòe-lâi ê? Chhiáⁿ mn̄g kok-ūi kám sī án-ne? Lán Holopedia kái ēng khe-chúi lâi hun lūi-pia̍t kám sī khah hó?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 12-ji̍t (Pài 4) 05:37 (UTC)

Góa kám-kak hô sī khah tōa tiâu--ê, khe khah sè tiâu. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 07:44 (UTC)

In-ūi goá pún-sin sī Tâi-oân-lâng, lán Tâi-oân toā-pō͘-hūn ê khe-liû lóng iōng "khe" (溪) teh hō-miâ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Lô-chúi-khe, Chan-bûn-khe, Ko-pîn-khe téng-téng, che lóng bô-lūn sī toā tiâu ia̍h sè tiâu. Goá ka-kī ê koan-chhat, Hok-kiàn-ōe ê "khe" eng-kai sī sè tiâu--ê, ah "kang" (江) sī toā tiâu--ê, kám m̄-sī? Chhiūⁿ kóng Hok-kiàn ê Chìn-kang, Kiú-liông-kang téng-téng án-ne. Tān-sī lán chāi-tē iōng "hô" (河) lâi hō-miâ ê khe-liû chin-chiáⁿ hui-siông chió.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 10:42 (UTC)

Chham-khó: Hok-kiàn hô-liû (福建河流) kap Tâi-oân kok-tē hô-chhoan (台灣各地河川). Chhìn-chhái tiám, chú-iàu lóng sī "khe" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat. Goá khoàⁿ Hā Eng Toā Sû-tián sī kóng "kang" sī "a large river", ah "hô" sī "river", ah "khoe" sī "small river"; tān-sī khoàⁿ tē-miâ soah chin chió ū "hô" ê iōng-hoat. Jû-kó "khe" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat khak-si̍t sī khah chāi-tē ê tē-lí hō-miâ hong-sek, lán teh hoan-e̍k goā-kok hui-Hàn-jī khe-chúi ê sî-chūn chiū eng-kai iōng chit-khoán khah chāi-tē ê iōng-hoat lâi siá, chhin-chhiūⁿ Mississippi Hô chiū eng-kai kái chò Mississippi Kang án-ne, m̄-bián siū-tio̍h Tiong-bûn hoan-e̍k ê éng-hióng, m̄ chāi goá-ê khoàⁿ-hoat kám ū thò-tòng?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 10:49 (UTC)

Goá kó͘-chá tòa Tâi-pak ê sî, chai-iáⁿ hia ū Tām-chúi-hô kap Ke-lâng-hô. Nn̄g tiâu lóng m̄-sī kiò-chò “khe”. – Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 12:51 (UTC)

Kî-si̍t che iā bô siáⁿ-mih iàu-kín, chí-sī siūⁿ-beh hoan-e̍k goā-kok chúi-hē ê sî-chūn ē tú-tio̍h iōng-jī ê gî-būn. Só͘-í "khe" í-keng khak-tēng sī sè tiâu--ê. Tú-á koh ū khoàⁿ-tio̍h chit phiⁿ, lāi-bīn ū kóng tio̍h Hok-kiàn khah chē "khe", iā pí-kàu "hô" kap "kang" ê iōng-hoat, khoàⁿ khí-lâi "kang" kan-na sī Tiong-kok lâm-hong kap Lâm A-chiu gí-giân ê iōng-sû. Tiong-bûn pán-pún sī kā Eng-bûn ê "river" lóng hoan-e̍k chò "hô", ah lán chia leh? Kám-sī chiàu Tiong-bûn ê hoan-e̍k? ia̍h-sī beh chham Hân-bûn ê 강 (江; gang) kāng-khoán iōng "kang" chit jī?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 17-ji̍t (Pài 2) 13:50 (UTC)

[Thê-gī] Koan-î language ê iōng-hoat?[kái goân-sú-bé]

Tī lán Hokkien lāi, hiān-tāi lâng it-poaⁿ lóng ē kā language hoan-e̍k chò gí-giân (語言), che tī kó͘-chá lâi kóng, kám sī chú-liû ê iōng-hoat? Ia̍h-sī chit khoán iōng-hoat sī tùi Mandarin thoân-ji̍p--ê? Sui-jiân goá chāi-iáⁿ Tâi-gí (台語), Ji̍t-gí (日語) ê iōng-hoat tī chit-má ê Tâi-oân siā-hōe chin phó͘-phiàn, tān-sī tī í-chá lāu-chi̍t-pòe ê lâng soah sī iōng Tâi-oân-ōe (台灣話), Kńg-tang-ōe (廣東話), Ji̍t-pún-ōe (日本話), Tiong-kok-ōe (中國話), Hân-kok-ōe (韓國話) téng-téng iōng-hoat khah chē. Chit khoán hiān-siōng káⁿ-ná tī Sin-ka-pho téng Tang-lâm-a kok-ka ê sú-iōng-chiá iā chin chia̍p-khoàⁿ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Hok-kiàn-ōe (福建話), Lán-lâng-ōe (咱農話), Tiô-chiu-ōe (潮州話) téng-téng. Ùi chia khoàⁿ ē chhut-lâi, Ōe (話) chiah sī lán Hokkien siōng chá choan-bûn iōng-lâi kóng language ê bêng-sû, (語) ê iōng-hoat khó-lêng sī khah oàⁿ chiah chhut-hiān ia̍h-sī khah bûn-giân ê iōng-hoat. Lēng-goā, ùi im-ūn lâi khoàⁿ, chhin-chhiūⁿ Eng-kok-ōe (英國話), Hoat-kok-ōe (法國話), Tek-kok-ōe (德國話), Sūi-tián-ōe (瑞典話), A-la-pek-ōe (阿拉伯話), Oa̍t-lâm-ōe (越南話) téng-téng, liām khí-lâi iā chin sūn. In-chhú, goá kiàn-gī tī Holopedia ê gí-giân bûn-chiuⁿ kám ài thóng-it iōng Ōe chit jī lâi chhú-tāi Gú / Gí?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 09:42 (UTC)

Lán m̄-bián khí siū-tio̍h Hàn-jī ia̍h-sī Tiong-bûn iōng-hoat ê éng-hióng, lán eng-kai ài í lán ka-kī ê pe̍h-ōe ûi-chú. Kāng-khoán sī iōng Lô-má-jī, lân Oa̍t-lâm-ōe chiū ē chhái-iōng in ka-kī ê Tiếng (㗂) ê iōng-hoat, lán eng-kai ài kā in o̍h, kám m̄-sī?--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 09:54 (UTC)

en:WP:BOLD! --Kaihsu (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 24-ji̍t (Pài 2) 17:39 (UTC)
  • 揣《臺灣閩南語常用詞辭典》,今仔日tī閩南語lāi-té已經有chin chē chi̍t khóan ê用法,像國語華語英語日語客語。所以有何不可?並且用“xx語”比較正式,更符合百科內容,若無太老土。中國語也經常用“xx話”來叫一種語言,in爲何毋移動?
  • “話”在閩南語lāi-té kah 中國語一樣,有語言kah方言2種意思,你用“話”,究竟是語言抑是方言就無法度分清楚了。(我估計中國語不用“xx話”,除了老土以外,猶考慮到chia原因)。越南語“Tiếng”意思是“語言”,“方言”用“phương ngữ”,區別很嚴格。我感覺用“xx話”猶有將語言矮化做漢語“方言”ê嫌疑,我chin厭惡chi̍t khóan講法,tī中國語版維基 hia 一貫主張將所有漢語“方言”ê標題toà“xx話”移動kàu“xx語”。
  • 閩南語ê wiki代碼叫做“Bân-lâm-gú”,按你ê提議,是毋是應該改名叫做“Bân-lâm-ōe”?
  • chia提議討論ê人太少,猶無真正ê共識,所以馬上將chin chē條目大量半自動移動去“xx ōe”不妥,應該先移轉去。猶有其他人tī chia也chin活躍,應該讓in也來討論以後再講。--El caballero de los Leones (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 3) 11:30 (UTC)
  • Goá pún-lâng sī bōe kám-kak ōe chit jī sī án-choàⁿ teh lāu-thó͘ ah? Che chiū sī lán-ê giân-gú, sī-án-choáⁿ bōe-ēng-tit chū-jiân ê lâi sú-iōng? Chiū-sǹg sī pek-kho-choân-su, sī lán-ê pe̍h-ōe. chiū iōng lán-ê pe̍h-ōe, che eng-kai bô siáⁿ-mih m̄-tio̍h. Bô-pit-iàu iōng Hàn-jī kap Tiong-bûn ê siūⁿ-hoat lâi hān-chè ka-kī ê pe̍h-ōe.
  • Goá iā tông-ì chit-má ê lâng iōng gú/gí ê pí-lē sī jú-lâi-jú koân, tān-sī pēng m̄-sī só͘-ū ê giân-gú lóng ē-tit ēng. Tī Tâi-oân Bân-lâm-gú Siông-iōng-sû Sû-tián ia̍h-sī kî-thaⁿ sû-tián lāi-bīn, iā bô kóng-tio̍h「話」chit jī sī tāi-piáu「方言」ê ì-sù, tian-tò sī thó͘-ōe (土話) chiah sī「方言」ê ì-sù. Chāi goá khoàⁿ,thiàu-thoat Hàn-jī kap Tiong-bûn ê éng-hióng, siōng-goân-chá ê Hok-kiàn-ōe, 「ōe」chiū sī giân-gú, ah「thó͘-ōe」chiah sī chāi-tē-ōe. Tong-jiân, siū-tio̍h Tiong-kok-ōe kap Hàn-jī ê éng-hióng, chē-chē lâng ē kám-kak「話」chiū sī thó͘-ōe ê ì-sù, tān-sī lí khoàⁿ Sin-ka-pho-lâng ē kóng "Hok-kiàn-ōe", Tang-lâm-a-lâng ē kóng "Lán-lâng-ōe", Tâi-oân-lâng ē kóng "Tâi-oân-ōe", hián-sī chhut 「ōe」chit jī sī lán kiōng-tông ê chū-jiân iōng-hoat.
  • Goá sī kám-kak ē-sái kái chò Hok-kiàn-ōe,thiaⁿ khí-lâi chham Eng-kok-ōe ê Hokkien kāng-khoán, chin sūn iā chin kok-chè-hoà.
  • Chin sit-lé, goá eng-kai ài seng tán khoàⁿ-māi leh chiah khai-sí tín-tāng, goá ē thêng-chí bo̍k-chiân ê tōng-chok.--Sunshine567 (對話) 2016-nî 5-goe̍h 25-ji̍t (Pài 3) 12:23 (UTC)